Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Jun 1, 2019 23:16:24 GMT
I have the well done 71 feet deep lots of water from 20 feet down very good refill. Here is my issue the Chines and India made deep well pumps (Screw type) Are insanely inexpensive. But slapping a pump is is Labor intense, I don't want to use an inverter if I do not have too. Has anyone used one of these. My Hope is they have. If you are one of the old timers here. Please look at this and tell me what you think. I am almost entirely of the grid and this is the last dragon to slay
Any help I can get is appricated
Davo
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Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Jun 22, 2019 23:24:11 GMT
Just an Up Date, Well I found I can buy Three Chinese Made Well pumps for the price of one (I thought was) US Made one. I had went to buy a US Made pump for about 359 Bucks. Home Improvement store one of the big ones. Took a look at the pump and It was Chinese Made. I decided to cut out the Middle man, I now have a 12 V DC deep well Screw Pump. A 110 volt jet pump and one Submersible deep well pump. All NIB. The Panels are Up and Batteries are in also, 320 Watts x 5 on the panels. These were rebuilt Panels along with Two 205 Amp hr GC Battery's rebuilt with a 1 yr warranty. I hope the 12 Volt pump works out. But if it doesn't I have a HF CC to push on with. I will post photos as I go. Wish Me Luck guys.
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Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Jul 15, 2019 22:19:57 GMT
Hey folks here is how the screw pump went
12 volt Chinese made screw type well pump 180 watt. Out of the box it looked OK the main issue is no manual or tech help available. Did it work yes but there were issues. The female cable adapter is mis marked the pos is actually the neg. Once that was sorted out there was no pumping at all despite the motor &pump submerged and slight humming motor sound in a 55 gallon drum of water. I shut it down and took a good look at it the top of the screw was sticking out 1/4 inch out past the rubber on top the pump for the heck of it I pushed on it with my thumb. It felt like is snapped back into a slot into a catch. I hooked it back up being careful not to Knock it around. Back into the 55 Gallon drum of h20. Kitchen sink water pressure of about 20 lbs on a water hose. Bottom line if you need high water volume/ pressure stay away from these pumps. If you plan is to be off grid and fill water tanks and have a booster pump on the tanks I would consider this on cost alone and if they offer an extended warranty I would get it. It hope this review will help some one there is no manufacture name at all on these pumps It will work on 12 volts. I will answer any questions about my no name cheapo well pump.
For now I am going to go after the next one I bought. I will write it up
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Johann
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Post by Johann on Jul 22, 2019 3:53:13 GMT
Thank you David.
A lot of asian items are using the plus as common.
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Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Jul 23, 2019 0:14:27 GMT
Johann
Old friend. Thanks for the update I didn't know that's how its going on the Asian Pos and Neg. I have Recommended the Cheep 12 volt pump to some folks already. I tested a second one so fare it has to have an inverter but for now at only pulling 2.5 amp 1 HP with a tank on it. It ran 5 hrs and never broke a sweat. Its Chinese made. I will post a photo soon. It ran off ta cheep 2000/4000 watt inverter. You Know the brand well the cooling fans on the inverter never came on during this time. It Pulled at a 17 ft water table to 70 ft ( And its a Shallow well pump )Nice The well is the last thing I have on the Grid an I am close to nailing it. So how are you projects going? We dont hear from Ray Much anymore. Nice to hear you are still here. I am going to test the 1/2 hp submersible next week I will post how it goes.
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Johann
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Post by Johann on Jul 23, 2019 4:49:51 GMT
David, good to hear from you.
I am still partly on solar.
I am using a used electric forklift battery now for the last 3 years that was not good enough anymore to power a forklift for a longer time. But it is still good enough for my use at least for now.
The last 2 days I used my circular saw and my craftsman table on solar power to build some bee hives. I use a el cheapo 2000/4000 watt inverter to power the saws and the saws seem to have plenty of power to run of solar power. I am still on 12 volt.
How did your wind generator project turn out?
Are there anymore of the old-timers?
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Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Jul 23, 2019 23:44:39 GMT
Johann Hi
Nice to get feed Back. The 2000/4000 I got from HF I got it as a few years ago. Pumped the 1 hp pump Nice. Today I fried it. I hate it but the blame is on me. I was swapping out wire and cooked it. I Have one NIB that will be the full time one. The Wind Gen worked out OK. I just live in an area of Texas where wind isn't the way to go. I have to wait for storms the last time i checked it I was getting 4 amps ( Not Good ) But the Panels were not doing anything much. I got it dirt Cheep and at 4 amps I am ok with it. The mast was the hard part. I made it so I could raise it and lower it. Hey its still working. You going to put one up?
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Johann
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Post by Johann on Jul 27, 2019 1:06:08 GMT
I am glad to hear that you got at least a few amps out of your wind generator.
Hey a few amps is better than nothing, especially if a storms is coming up and the panels are not doing much.
Well, I was thinking about to put one wind generator up, but it would not work out. I got to many trees around me and the only usable wind that I would get here in North Carolina would be tornadoes and hurricanes.
Sorry to hear that you fried your inverter. I got mine for a few years now also and I am happy with it. You need to check the fans once in a while if the cooling fans are still working to keep them cool.
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Dave Simmo
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Post by Dave Simmo on Aug 15, 2019 22:32:26 GMT
OK took a while but 2 more pumps put through the ringer. And these will work off a 2000/4000 MSW inverter. The first one was the Cheep Tank 1 HP combination. Watter level is at 17 feet so everything is Base on Shallow well. The only reason I did not keep the 115 volt 1HP/Tank combo in the ground and use it. It States on the Box Not for potable water. Power was good and pressure got up to speed fast. Install was simple and surprisingly pain free. The 2000/4000 watt inverter did not break a sweat with this pump. They Now make on for Potable water. I will have one of these in my Reserve as a Backup. It Made the Inverter pull about 40 amps out of the 225 amp bay. However I was putting 80 amps back in. The Pump Held up way better than expected.
Second Pump was a very inexpensive Convertible just pump ½ HP From HD, ECO FLO 1/2 HP Convertible Deep Well Jet Pump. It worked very well filling a 45 Gallon Tank and putting the pressure up to 50 PSI it is a heave beast but it did the job. If my Battery bay was bigger I would have left this one installed. I ran it pumping water level at 17 feet so I set it up as a shallow well configuration. It Ran continuously for about three hrs. Then it inverter protected my batteries and shut off. But still I rarely run may water wide pen in the swamp I live in. The pressure was awesome for being on solar. It did pull a lot of amps but if your battery bay is larger than two batteries not bad. It did pull more amps than the 1 HP Combo from HF Why I do not know. The unit was Noisy and I mean loud but for the price it was something I could live with.
I will post pics of the pumps later. I am waiting for a submersible pump to review at this time.
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Johann
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Post by Johann on Aug 20, 2019 21:58:03 GMT
David, can you post some links of the pumps that work for you.
I was thinking.
If you would pump the water into a above ground reservoir at daytime then you would use some of the solar power right when it is generated and you would use less battery power when the sun is shining. It would be less strain on the battery and would keep the battery amps down. You could use a float switch to shut of the pump when the reservoir is full and a timer to allow the pump only to come on at daytime or you could use a light sensor.
Then from the reservoir you could use a low horsepower pump which would use less power and may save more battery power since the water is above ground already. And this lower watt pump could be used day and night since it uses less power.
To note....
1 HP equal to 756 watts in electrical units.
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